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Тема: Кто убил Сааб?

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Who killed Saab?
by Hilton Holloway

So, who killed Saab? Ultimately, it was a tragically mis-matched marriage with General Motors. The small, quirky, car maker from rural western Sweden and the American corporate steamroller from Michigan were never going to gel.

Stop-start product launches and over a decade of models cobbled together from GM’s decidedly mainstream parts bin was the direct cause of Saab’s demise.

The problems began when GM swept in and stole Saab from under Fiat’s nose in 1989. A planned replacement for the ancient 900 was switched from being based on the admired Saab 9000 to being based on the aged Cavalier. The 1993 900 was a so-so car at launch that struggled on for a decade in the face of overwhelming premium-brand opposition. Saab was also embarrassed by the car’s poor showing in lab crash tests.

A major re-engineering in 1998 (when it was re-badged the 9-3) was a big improvement, but GM would not release the funds to allow the car to be re-styled, so a big opportunity was missed to give the only premium hatchback on the market a second wind.

The 1997 9-5 also suffered from being partly based (just 35 per cent by content) on the 1995 Vectra. But GM’s parts bin was just not sophisticated enough to build a car that could look Audi’s A6 and BMW’s 5-series in the eye. Saab’s unsurprising inability to make profits resulted in it being put on an investment drip-feed, which made its situation worse.

The 2003 9-3 should have been a breakthrough but Saab, mindful of the limitations of GM-sourced parts, extensively - and expensively - designed many unique components and systems for the 9-3. GM bosses were furious. It’s rumoured that the estate version of the 9-3, a crucial car in the European market, was delayed in direct response to Saab’s quiet and costly re-jigging of the Epsilon platform.

However, at the time of the 9-3 launch, GM boss Bob Lutz decided to take an active role in trying to save tiny Saab from getting lost at the back of the company’s annual report. Concerned that dealers, in the US especially, were dying away from a lack of the right kind of new products, Lutz pressed the panic button and got Saab to produce a badge-engineered version the Subaru Impreza (the 2005 9-2x) and a re-worked version of the Oldsmobile Bravada SUV (the 2006 9-7x). Although both improved on the base vehicles, both failed to sell in significant numbers.

GM’s predilection for canning Saab models at the last moment is probably unmatched in automotive history. At the beginning of the decade, Saab had prepared its own, near-bespoke, version of the Caddy SRX SUV, itself a pretty sophisticated vehicle and one Saab’s US dealers were crying out for. GM canned it at the last minute.

It also canned Saab’s version of the Subaru Tribeca SUV when GM’s relationship with Subaru ended. In that case, Saab’s 2005 New York show stand was left near-empty when GM’s decision to pull the vehicle was taken after the concept version of the proposed Saab 4x4 had already been built.

But perhaps the killer blow was GM’s decision, in late 1995, to cancel an all-new 9-5. Conceived during the GM-Fiat partnership, it was the sister car to the Alfa 159 and based on the all-new Saab designed ‘premium’ platform (the name gives a clear clue to Saab’s frustration at GM's limitations). Saab finally had a bespoke premium car, but GM’s split with Fiat saw the project canned. Saab simply never recovered from the loss of the 9-5 that never was.

In truth, Saab, as a carmaker, could never have recovered from these blows. But it is also not widely recognised that Saab’s incredibly fertile engineering centre turned out a huge amount of innovative work for GM, including designing, among other things, its four-wheel drive system, the Hi-Per strut front suspension, the Q2 mechanical diff, the Fiat Panda 4x4 system, and much of the current Epsilon 2 platform.

Saab was well on the way to becoming independent with its clever Phoenix platform and we can only hope that its Chinese suitors can pick up the design rights and then keep most of Saab’s engineering team together in order to bring the Phoenix to life, under whatever future brand. Saab was never very good at shifting the metal, but its left-field engineering genius was one of the unsung aspects of the car industry.

About Hilton Holloway
Has two product design degrees and used to design mountain bikes. Realised that cars were a lot more interesting in 1990, and has been writing about them ever since.

Источник: http://www.autocar.co.uk/blogs/autocarc … -saab.aspx

'02 9-5 Aero Wagon
'91 9kT16SA


Re: Кто убил Сааб?

GM - пидорасы

9k аэро M97; 9-5 сарай М05.
Не важно есть Бог или нет - но Он хранит Россию!


Re: Кто убил Сааб?

А я уже много раз говорил, что к пиндосам попало, то, считай, пропало!

Были: 99GLS 1979; 900GL 1986; 9000CSE 2,3t 1997


Re: Кто убил Сааб?

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SAAB 9-5 SE 2.3t B235E LPT 170hp manual 1998 [color 268]


Re: Кто убил Сааб?

принял участие
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid= … mp;theater

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X-Ray XB9, 2.25 hp / 30,000 rpm


Re: Кто убил Сааб?

Тоже принял участие пару раз... Только это не мера против пиндосов.

Saab 9-3ОГ, saab 9-3 aero 2005
Были:Saab 99, Bmw e32 750, opel astra D, Subaru WRX, nexia SOHC


Re: Кто убил Сааб?

Олдсмобиль убили, Понтиак убили, за СААБ принялись. Лучше б опель.

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Re: Кто убил Сааб?

ветшишка, +1! Лучше бы опИль закрыли! А то все технологии с СААБа передрали и закрыли! Ублюдки!

Multi multa sciunt, nemo- omnia!
Ford Mondeo '17, 2.0t 262Hp, SAAB 9000 '97, 2.0t, 150Hp


Re: Кто убил Сааб?

Тимур пишет:

one of the unsung aspects of the car industry

Вот это имхо наиболее полно характеризует проблему. SAAB как был непонят, так и остался к сожалению.

Driving 9000S M90 B204T swapped Manual Trionic 5.5, Chrysler Town&Country M05
Ex. 900 OG М86 2.0lpt, 900 OG M87 2.0i, 9k Turbo M86, 9k CS M97, 9000S M92 2.3i Auto.


Re: Кто убил Сааб?

ветшишка пишет:

Олдсмобиль убили, Понтиак убили, за СААБ принялись. Лучше б опель.

В тебя дважды попали!!!  ../../extensions/custom_smilies_2/img1/whistling

99 m83


Re: Кто убил Сааб?

Вот это кажется в тему:

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TLC 200 v8 d-4d biturbo 2011 г.


Re: Кто убил Сааб?

Еще один интересный текст по теме:

by Matthew Cross (not verified) - 12/24/2011 - 02:32

Let's all cut to the chase: Saab will always represent and stand for the best qualities in any industry, especially the automobile industry: Deep and tireless concern for the lives and safety (the absolute first principle), well-being and enjoyment of its customers. This key yet under-appreciated point is abundantly evidenced in Saab's brilliant safety/handling innovations and pioneering leadership in safety cage design, crumple zones, ergonomic instrumentation design--which maximizes road attention via minimizing distraction/over-looking for controls; reverse-opening hood to minimize collision intrusion into the passenger compartment, key placed between the seats to protect your right knee in a collision, front-wheel drive, disc brakes, egg-shaped total body design—mirroring nature's incredibly strong/resilient design principles; heated seats--reflecting the vital understanding that a cold driver is a more contracted/less flexible and responsive one, innovations in quality engineering... the list goes on and on and on... What amazing and unique DNA for a car company, yet no surprise considering Saab's direct aircraft design roots... Just because Saab was never a huge monetary success takes nothing away from its brilliant and vital contributions to fundamental automotive safety, which ought to ALWAYS be Job 1 for EVERY automobile company. The resultant driving experience was a delightful synergy of rock-solid road handling and feedback from car to driver, confidence, ergonomic ease, great driver visibility, and myriad other tangible and intangible qualities which result in pride in ownership, deep customer appreciation and brand loyalty, and simple happiness at feeling cared for by the combined intelligent and heartfelt efforts of a group of people turning out a great product which got you from point A to B in safety, comfort and quirky style.

Judging Saab by mere monetary success also COMPLETELY misses the point. Saab was like a future-leaning R&D skunkworks, pioneering so many crucial and delightful innovations which proved foundational to automotive engineering and design. It's a known fact that many R&D departments in organizations "lose money," yet are so often the seeds for breakthrough success when viewed/valued for their contributions to the WHOLE company and/or greater industry. Additionally, many organizations would kill for the BRAND LOYALTY that the original Saab, prior to GM's involvement, and subsequent dilution/destruction of the brand and finally the company itself. As a footnote, what a tragic joke of a company GM is---how can anybody take a company seriously that accepts billions in taxpayer bailout money due to its utter incompetence---totally boring/low value product line, antiquated management/leadership practices, arrogance, poor quality, etc., etc. To be clear, this is NOT an attack on GM's vast and well-meaning workforce. As quality authority Dr. W. Edwards Deming has shown, 95% or more of the problems in any company are the fault of the system the people work within, which can only be improved with the support of the organization's top leadership/management.

If all of the above sounds like something of a love letter to a car and the company that produced it, so be it. I view it more as a tribute to the highest ideals any company (especially an automotive company) and the people who are that company ought to aspire to: to care deeply about the safety FIRST of its customers and thus make a car that's safer, easier, more fun, more durable, more interesting---even different, if that's where it leads you---than all the other status quo cars on the road. Saab will always be great for putting safety first, allowing this principle to drive the design, form and function of the car. They truly epitomized "Thinking Different." My hope is that the spirit if not the company of Saab will one day be resurrected in new form, as reflected in the beautiful PhoeniX concept car from recent Saab designer Jason Castriota, who's vision and ethic embodied the true heart and soul of what made Saab timelessly great.


Note: Author Matthew Cross is president of Leadership Alliance, a global strategic alignment and training organization and author/co-author of five books (see HoshinMedia.com and LeadershipAlliance.com). He drove his first Saab in 1983 and proudly owns three 1990's Saabs today.

Источник: http://www.torquenews.com/108/send-gm-c … ment-10575

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'91 9kT16SA


Re: Кто убил Сааб?

Напоминает речь на панихиде. Или на на поминках ../../extensions/custom_smilies_2/img1/sad

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Re: Кто убил Сааб?

Vadim пишет:

А я уже много раз говорил, что к пиндосам попало, то, считай, пропало!

Кстати да. В последнем авторевю, пара статей, про ГМ, шевроле и понтиак. Там в кратце написаны в т.ч. и причины краха многих марок концерна. А виноват во всем Дюрант. ../../extensions/custom_smilies_2/img1/tongue

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